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Post by Haleigh Sharphowl on Jan 16, 2007 20:44:17 GMT -5
Or whatever alt name you know her by. You know, I've always tried to be nice. I like supporting other dreams in the equestrian community. I try not to start shit whenever possible. But for the past six months, -at least-, I have been fully aware of some underlying animosity coming from her end. I've tried to be kind, I've tried to help her with things, I've tried roleplaying with her. The bottom line is this. I'm sick of it. If you don't like me, Ren, leave. Leave TREC, stop roleplaying with me, stop posting on my forums, don't frequent my dreams, and don't talk about me behind my back. And I'm well aware that you do so; some of your friends happen to be MY friends too. The only time I have EVER said anything about you is AFTER finding out about an attack from you or getting an attack from your little online boyfriend. Don't believe me? In case I didn't get it, he sent it to me again via Postmaster, you know, just to be sure. This was apparently "triggered" by me banishing him (Doom Shadowhawk) and his little pal (Rocky Leone) after they came in specifically to piss off me and Chaos. I'd like to know, in full, how I am being a "cunt" to Ren. I really would! I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong. Am I a cunt for helping her with her college paper? How about for watching her on deviantArt? I've tried to be kind and supportive of her from her first step into the equine community. This isn't my first run-in with this Korlic friend of hers, by the way. Here's a little snippet of love during the whole Triple Crown fiasco: I don't know Korlic. I'd never spoken to him before this, and I really haven't spoken to him since (except telling him to knock it off when he was starting shit here in TREC). So I don't want anyone to try to say I started anything with him, because quite frankly, you'd be wrong! It's (apparently) common knowledge that he's Ren's boyfriend (and he makes it pretty apparent in his whispers to me) and I wonder WHO would put him up to doing such a thing? Here's the deal. This is a discussion board and the quotes above and my experiences with Ren are thus up for discussion. I'm tired of all of this being whispered and said in private dreams; I want everything on the table, now. If you've got a problem with me, put on your big girl panties and speak up about it without namecalling or immaturity. My staff or I will promptly remove threads that are over-the-line. (Please do NOT respond to threads by trolls.) ...And I'm about to hit send, and here's one last gem: Sorry, but when I know exactly WHO it is who's coming in (Korlic, by the way, is on the old ban list for TREC, from before banishing existed) -- I'm going to can you ASAP.  |
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Post by Faux on Jan 16, 2007 21:34:08 GMT -5
I don't want to get involved with this argument, and truthfully, I'm nuetral in this issue because I don't have solid information from either side. Plus, it's a problem between you and Ren (or just her boyfriend?), so I have no say, really. :>
But... Christ. He fucking threatened to kill you, Leigh. That's liable for actual arrest. As much as I love Ren, that fucking pisses me off.
If he threatens you like that again, call the cops. I don't care who the fuck he is.
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Post by Zoey on Jan 19, 2007 15:28:09 GMT -5
^ Like Faux said If you are sent death threats over the internet, in person, or through mail, you can arrest that person You can somehow trace their IP number thingy, give it to the police and they can track it. If that dick gives you problems, go ahead and do it |
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Post by Amanda Roswell on Jan 19, 2007 21:00:55 GMT -5
*sighs and shakes her head, rolling her eyes* I'm not going to get involved either because I do not know facts from all sides.  |
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Post by Zoey on Jan 20, 2007 9:06:58 GMT -5
I don't know Ren, but if she's bitching at you like that and having that Korlic dude harrass you also you should do something.
But like Rose, I don't know her story or whatever :<
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Post by Amanda Roswell on Jan 20, 2007 10:02:53 GMT -5
As Zoey said, I don't like it either but I'm going to try not to jump to conclusions.
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Post by Sasha Adrik on Jan 28, 2007 14:45:03 GMT -5
Oh you know what I find funny?
She disowns all my alts and deletes characters associated to me and then a week later I see her in CD and she's RPing the same genre and such when she SAYS she's quitting horse RP.
Wow, such a long time in quit land that was, no?
I'm sorry but it's fucking pissing me off and apparently she did this before too with other people and all it seems to be is a fucking excuse to get herself out of trouble.
I don't want this bullshit anymore so quite frankly I'm done talking with her forever, I don't want to listen to this crap and have such a flake dealing with me.
I'm sorry for the cussing but it NEEDS to be done.
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Post by Kal on Jan 28, 2007 14:51:01 GMT -5
I agree with Sasha, that is totally ridiculous. (:
She did the exact same thing to me a couple of weeks ago, and then went ahead and spent all her time in TREC and CD AFTER she said she was apparently going to "slow down" from rping. Non-hateful reasons. HA, stop lying, please. (:
..ahem. i really had to get that out, sorry. x)
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Post by Kisco on Jan 28, 2007 15:55:53 GMT -5
Dear friends or whatever you'd like to be titled,
Since I've been watching the forum and your comments, I think it's high time I give my side of the story and you can decide for yourself what you wish. As right now I honestly do not give a damn either way. But there are many a questions to be answered, and believe me they will indeed be answered.
Me leaving Furcadia. Yes, I have said this alot. Yes I have actually enacted upon this, but before you complain about me saying I am going to leave. How many times have certain choice few you. I remember Kal specifically saying last year she wouldn't even be on this game anymore, that it would be her last year. Wonder how many people believed her, as she said that the year before too. So why am I any different? Plus I merely said I was leaving certain dreams alone, never did I say once I was leaving 'furcadia' as a whole. So get your damn facts straight =).
Why'd I ever close my dreams? Plain and simple, I learned one thing. Through time I employed the same staff, that same staff were nothing but the downfall of said dreams. When I had SHEC and BRF both, the rude and cruel behavior towards patrons lead to the slight decline in the dislike of my dreams. Believe me I will not ever make this mistake again. And no it was not all staff, but some -- the names will not be revealed. If you feel offended whisper me, because you may have no reason for feeling such.
Did I talk behind peoples back? Most certainly did, I will not lie and say I did not. That's just what dishonest people do, and let's face it I really dislike being dishonest. Yes, I did say Wynd was a bitch and yes I did say that she needs a swift attitude adjust me. Do I regret it? Nope. Because that is what I do believe. Now before you all get up in my face about saying that, then actually sit back and think about why I might. To be clearly honest, there are alot of things that Wynd went off to hurt me. And for the reasons why I feel that I should dislike her a many I shall highlight a few only.
- Last year, not sure when but - I had spoke about my border collie Ember. She had some temperament issues that were slightly undesirable, I mentioned I would be breeding her to get a slightly better temperament out of a puppy. You said that breeding for a better temperament would be pointless. Let me tell you something, I have raised, shown, and bred Samoyeds with my mother since I was 5 years old. Believe me when I say a bad temperament can be bred out of a dog. Until I see evidence that you yourself have chosen a dog to breed to yours, raised puppies (that is puppies not puppy =) ), seen the results of said breeding and have at least earned some sort of status in your breeds community I suggest you keep your mouth shut about breeding a dog. Any intelligent 'dog breeder' would know that a temperament can be bred out of a dog, regardless of what you heard. There's a reason why German breeders keep the guard dogs, working dogs, show dogs and pet dogs separate. One breeder breeds to similar temperaments to bring out the same affect. However, maybe one or two puppies could come out differently then expected BUT NOT ALL. I was highly offended that YOU, of all people were giving ME advice on such a matter when you have probably no experience yourself aside from books. So as I said before, I don't feel your at liberty to tell me how to work my animals life.
-Secondly, a girl came in asking you what type of dog you thought she should get. Now I dunno how much about her you knew, but I whispered her and talked her out of the breeds you suggested. One of which was a Sheltie, which for a young kid and the type of life she lead was a horrible choice or suggestion. I pointed her in the RIGHT direction by telling her to go to akc.org and taking the personality test in the kids section. That specifically helps a person match there lifestyle to the breed of dog that suits them. My complaint is, I think you need to start broadening your mind on all breeds and learning the background of them, that means going as far as talking to a sound breeder. Shelties can be somewhat snippy, and don't do well with children most of the time -- hence why that is a bad choice for her. Also, they -are- a herding dog which means they need alot of room to roam -- she lived in the city. =)
- My last complaint is, very simple and to the point. Wynd seems to be self-proclaimed ruler of all events of furcadia. I mean she gets upset about me holding to many races, then gets pissy about me wanting to hold the triple crown. First of all, you have no rule over who can hold what. If I was uploaded in a different part of furcadia and held the same event you did -- there should be no difference. It's not copying either, it's having -fun- some people might not want to run in yours, you know Mirah had a bit of a issue with CD holding their own version -- but it was history after a while.
My point is, you act like you can just control people you know? I mean it's sad really, and some actually do fall under that ideal too. Just because you own the dream doesn't mean you should be so uppity and with severe attitude problems. And you hold a grudge against someone like nobodies business. I mean you still bring up the IFS crap, and they removed your shit like ages ago. It's history, done and over with .. GET OVER IT.
And believe me, I haven't been the only one to talk behind your back so openly. People within your dream definitely have. I even have the logs as proof, and I will provide links to them if you so wish. =) But only if you ask for them, but I can definitely tell you two off had that have -- Kal and Nat.
Why did I disown characters or delete some? Plain and simple. I'm getting pretty tired of how, you treat me like shit. Specifically Kal and Nat. I'm tired of owning the same drama creating, bitchy people to play a horse. Go ahead, and get mad at me for saying this I really honestly do not care. And you rarely roleplayed with your animals, Kal hadn't even RP'd with Ember in like months. So why should she still own her? I come on for a reason, and it's definitely not all just to sit and chat and shoot the breeze. The only person I did not intentionally delete was Davi which was owned by Rose. I just didn't feel up to playing the character and I am sorry. <3
To everyone else. Well, either you can hate me or like me. Either way it's up to you to decide really. I can't sway you, nor will I because unlike some other people I do not need to thrive off of whom is better then whom. Not anymore, I'm tired of the bullshit. And as for Kal and Cha, I go to Castelar Downs because I like the people there and if you honestly think spying on me and hanging out there is going to turn me away your very wrong. I do not want to create drama in another dream, so don't you do it either. As it's rude upon the people whom are -not- involved in this situation. Have some class. And if you have such a fucking problem with me, grow some balls and say it to my face rather then conspire in whispers. I'm an adult I can handle whatever you have to throw me, and I probably won't give a fuck either way. And don't be trying to sway people into liking you or hating me more -- they are their own person and they can decide for themselves. Believe me it's true =).
Well, like I said. I'm sorry if I seem rash or harsh. But I'm really getting tired of people still bringing up shit that's ages old and gone -- but since they had to I decide I would too. And for a mere moment, if you look back in the logs to that day that my boyfriend and his friend came into your dream -- he merely said nothing but 'bitches' nothing directed towards anyone. In his part of the woods, that's a greeting. You all really need to relax a bit, chill out and learn to deal with shit better. As for me, I left your dream and I left you guys alone. However, you seem to think by coming into other dreams like I said before -had- nothing to do with this is gonna push me away more. And your so very wrong, these people happen to be created of a crowd of people you have also treated wrongly. So I fit in just fine there thank you. And if you don't want the drama, then why stir it more. Well whatever, I quit on Alex btw so you can just remove her from the staff list. Anddd if you think I am going to apologize for my boyfriends actions your wrong, I'm not him nor will I force him or his friend. I unlike you, don't control people. ^^ So leave me the hell alone and I will leave you the hell alone. <3
Kisco,Ren whatever you want to call me =).
P.S. I really was going to be quiet about this, but some people just can't seem to drop things at all.
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Post by Sasha Adrik on Jan 28, 2007 16:39:20 GMT -5
Oh really? So you think I'm a spy now?
Actually, Ren, just to let you know I've gone to CD a fuckload earlier before any of this shit started and I'm sure as hell not going to quit because you think I'm a spy to which I am nothing of the sort.
And if you are calling me on the way my staffing works then quite frankly shove it, I do things they way I think they should be dealt with and if it means a swift kick in the ass to Vinca then by all means I'll do it.
Also, you know what, if you didn't want drama you should've left a long time ago because this shit has been stirring up way before you deleted the characters (see the Barbaro incident please), that was one of the things that started that made me truly begin to dislike you.
And personally, I still keep the IFS problem because I think they aren't worth the headache they continuously continue to give me. So whatever, I'll continue saying what I will there.
If you think that by posting this it'll shut people up you're totally wrong, in fact it'll probably give people more ammo to want to hate you more than they already do.
Quite frankly I was friends with you OOCly and didn't mind everything that happened until recently where it was the last straw that broke the camel's back.
I'm not taking it anymore and I'm going to say whatever I think needs to be said and also, not saying it aloud and such was to avoid getting into an arguement amongst other people around. The ranting board is made, just for that, ranting and getting rid of steam to which makes you get headaches and stomach aches like some of us get from tension and drama shit that happens for no damn reason.
Quite frankly, do keep away from me and avoid talking if at all possible because I hideously doubt I will be civil towards you for a good long while.
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Post by Naat on Jan 28, 2007 17:02:24 GMT -5
Mhm, I admit to what she's saying. I'm not going to hide behind it. Although, I don't reaaaally care if you deleted your alts or disowned mine. I don't care. Mk? Just know that.
Oh, and I don't think it's really a good idea for you to point out that Kal said she was leaving, once? Was that once? How many countless times have you said you were quitting and then you are always back within a week. You can't point a finger at Kal for doing it once, everyone has their once or twice time when they want to quit.
As for everything else, I think that your boyfriend needs to calm down on his words. I mean, the whole, "I'm going to shoot your family", is a bit odd. You have to admit that one. Otherwise, if you don't want drama then leave us alone. All is done. Don't come back if you don't want it to happen again. It's over.
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Post by Kal on Jan 28, 2007 17:08:22 GMT -5
I go with what Nat said. I totally admit to everything she's said. I know it's true, so why try to hide it?
I would say more, but I'm going to refrain from continuing just so I don't continue being a.. "Drama creating, bitchy person."
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Post by Ruffian on Jan 28, 2007 17:10:47 GMT -5
This subject has been dropped for Weeks. Why did you bring it back up? I'm sorry... But for not wanting to cause drama....
Why do I even bother?
I'm done with all this. Theres no point to any of it.
ITS A GAME. An ONLINE game.
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Post by Sasha Adrik on Jan 28, 2007 17:13:07 GMT -5
It's a rant board, made to let off steam and I let of steam while doing it.
So, I don't really care if this brings up a whole topic, I felt like ranting and I did and not wanting to get called something I'm not so whatever.
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Post by Haleigh Sharphowl on Jan 29, 2007 9:45:49 GMT -5
I brought it back up because it became current again.
Ren, if the best you have to say against me is from a year ago, then maybe you should shut your mouth and try being around me now -- because people change. A LOT. There are people in TREC now who I couldn't tolerate a year ago and now I'm fine with them; some I even consider to be friends. You tell me I hang onto shit, like the IFS fiasco? Give me a break! That was only a couple months ago, just for comparison! And as for what I said about Ember, I'm entitled to giving my opinion in my dream. Don't like it? Don't come here. Because I compete in agility and spend a LOT of time around Border Collies and do talk to breeders and people who have had BCs for years, I feel that I DO know a little something about undesirable traits. All of the breeders I know, of ANY breeds (English Springers, Norfolk Terriers, Border Collies, Golden Retrievers...) will not breed a dog with temperament 'quirks'. Yes, you can get dogs that are better than the parents in temperament... you can also get dogs that are WORSE. And there are FAR too many BCs out there with shitty, unstable temperaments. I was in a seminar last week with a BC that went apeshit, I mean, completely lost it, at the sound of any clicking noise. No clickers, not even the click of a mechanical pencil -- or else this dog would flip out and run around like a maniac, eventually going belly-up in fear. If you know so God-damn much about dogs, don't get your knickers in a twist about someone who apparently knows nothing giving you a bit of advice.
I did NOT complain about you holding too many races, I only complained about you trying to take away an event I had held for years and enjoyed holding. How would you have liked it if I said I would hold the Rose Cup in 2007? Probably wouldn't have gone over too well, huh?
Korlic had been banished from my dream for the first little outburst. That's why I banished him again; he's not supposed to BE THERE at ALL. And I loved how when I whispered you on Guts, asking you to please ask your boyfriend to stop harassing me, you just said nothing and logged off of Guts. How polite. If my boyfriend was being a dick, I'd at least apologize on his behalf. But you did nothing.
I bring up the IFS shit because Sage is full of shit. That's why. She says she wants to be friends with me, wants a clean slate -- and then banishes me. She thinks her stable is the best and that her horses are the best, yet the ONLY IFS horse I have EVER seen compete outside of IFS is Green. All talk, no walk. I'll respect her when she stands up and is willing to work with other people.
And I know that other people have talked shit about me behind my back. There are many people in TREC that I keep at arm's length and don't trust specifically for that reason. Kal apologized awhile back for shit she had said and wanted to wipe the slate clean, so I did, and I think we are slowly mending our friendship.
Kal and Cha have been going to CD for ages, AGES, and if you think they're spying on you, take a deep breath and chill out. I mean, Sasha and Leigh have been buying horses from CD for the past six months (Fanta, Tex, Aru, Az...), long before I think you were a regular there. And if it's a 'breeding ground for people Wynd's wronged' than so be it. If you're not willing to talk to me to my face about any issues you have with me, in a calm, controlled manner, I don't want you around me or in my dreams, so I do hope you go elsewhere!
And you think you're an adult? You've been talking shit about me behind my back for years. I don't think you really deserve any respect, frankly.
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